tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post6240471889896937066..comments2024-03-28T07:31:16.882-04:00Comments on Stitches and Seams: Metza MetzDebbie Cookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03601675304884019607noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-92222800935645757522008-06-09T19:46:00.000-04:002008-06-09T19:46:00.000-04:00I haven't read ALL the comments, so if I'm redunda...I haven't read ALL the comments, so if I'm redundant, please forgive me.<BR/>It appears to fit relatively well until you get to the bust.<BR/>What if you did the full bust adjustment, and then rotated the increase into the arms eye - the dart would point southwest or southeast - I've found that dart really pulls in the fullness and then the garment lays relatively close to my body.<BR/><BR/>SharonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-71781660678222165892007-11-19T01:01:00.000-05:002007-11-19T01:01:00.000-05:00Could I ask you whether you do a 'standard' FBA on...Could I ask you whether you do a 'standard' FBA on your tops or do you have to start afresh with each and every one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-68626896375154885652007-11-17T13:37:00.000-05:002007-11-17T13:37:00.000-05:00Thanks so much for your CC report and pictures. I...Thanks so much for your CC report and pictures. I run like mad from a woven top that you pull over your head, it can be nothing more than a tent.Laceflowerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00548454249811205992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-80090748578881674772007-11-17T01:14:00.000-05:002007-11-17T01:14:00.000-05:00Hi Debbie.I tried this same pattern after a long s...Hi Debbie.I tried this same pattern after a long sewing drought.I was really fed-up with it very quickly,for all the reasons you have described.I have smaller 'girls' than you but I'm a bit bigger in the hip.This was THE most unflattering top I have ever made-and that's saying something after 30+ years of sewing!The tent effect was NOT flattering..... As some others have noted,there's a definite "Emperors new clothes" reaction to these patterns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-16574778990022569692007-11-16T07:37:00.000-05:002007-11-16T07:37:00.000-05:00Thank you for posting your findings. Your post is ...Thank you for posting your findings. Your post is a lesson on fitting! I bought a CC pattern a few months ago, but I haven't even considered using it yet. I don't think I'll be pulling it out any time soon. I think that top would work for you – as long as you didn't move! ;)Elarayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06487492651398001387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-49526715965514375052007-11-15T19:54:00.000-05:002007-11-15T19:54:00.000-05:00Hi, Debbie, it's Jane in KC (from the old PMB list...Hi, Debbie, it's Jane in KC (from the old PMB list). So interesting to see your review of CC's patterns - and so enlightening! Thanks! Seems like CC has provided patterns that will go around the larger person, period. Kind of like my opinion of Petite Plus patterns, of which I've actually sewn up a couple. You are not really the size person CC designs for, in spite of what Butterick would have us believe, and you DO have a shape - hence your gripes about her pattern!) I have actually had better luck choosing "regular" patterns based on body type, a la Darlene Miller. That woman made more sense to me than anyone we've ever had as a list host.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17967709559064438554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-21860054435983460322007-11-14T10:59:00.000-05:002007-11-14T10:59:00.000-05:00Debbie, I know you do not know me but you seem to ...Debbie, I know you do not know me but you seem to have great knowledge of fitting pants and I really need help. May I email you?<BR/>sheilaSheila T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15212924033108330892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-17789918558077121442007-11-14T10:32:00.000-05:002007-11-14T10:32:00.000-05:00Thanks for this fitting "expose" Debbie!!! I too w...Thanks for this fitting "expose" Debbie!!! I too was getting kind of "bummed out" with her on the list -- not to mention the ppl yelling bloody murder if anyone even dared to *question* her assumptions! I have tried one of her patterns & had email correspondence with her regarding fit. She continues to ascertain that I should choose pattern size by full bust size --- and me with a DDD bust & ski slope shoulders... -- I *know* how to do an FBA, thankyouverymuch!!!! But she insists no, either stick with full bust size (and live with the results) -- or else stick to princess line patterns (her fallback position, if you've noticed). What if I want a t-shirt that doesn't come in a princess line version??????<BR/><BR/>Thanks for *showing* what a lot of us have been *feeling*!!!<BR/><BR/>MargaretAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-25748677213965501182007-11-13T23:31:00.000-05:002007-11-13T23:31:00.000-05:00Debbie, I'm coming out of lurkdom to tell you how ...Debbie, I'm coming out of lurkdom to tell you how much I enjoy yr work. Yr such a talented lady.I never understood the attraction to CC patterns .Visually they're not flattering and look dated. I was hoping that the fit would compensate for there lack thereof.<BR/>Thanks for saving me the headache!<BR/><BR/>Dina<BR/>FoPRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-9289224646543954162007-11-13T17:28:00.000-05:002007-11-13T17:28:00.000-05:00Debbie ~ I understand why you are doing the series...Debbie ~ I understand why you are doing the series on the CC patterns and appreciate the lessons on fit...however, I refuse to purchase these patterns. I think they are an insult to plus size women because they are basically big fitting tents! Who wears this stuff (and that's a kind word for it!) I totally agree with Nan that these patterns do a disservice to the beginning plus size sewist and it pisses me off that Butterick is passing this crap off as fashion!Carolyn (Diary of a Sewing Fanatic)https://www.blogger.com/profile/02204627216540667980noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-79007360609815953862007-11-13T14:26:00.000-05:002007-11-13T14:26:00.000-05:00This evening it is fruit tea that I almost spat on...This evening it is fruit tea that I almost spat onto my keyboard!<BR/>First off I wonder how you got it over your head at all!<BR/><BR/>I have a 46" bust so I'll just turn some of that extra fabric into the neckline and change the shape. The remainder goes into the hem.<BR/>At first, I didn't intend to change the lines but now that I have seen it in 3D, I think I'll try to make it at least wearable, even as a PJ.<BR/><BR/>This afternoon I worked on the pants pattern. I added some width to those horrid tapered legs...can't stand them myself. Then I turned the waist allowance down and found quite a bit missing in the allowance at the back side seam. I added paper and reshaped. It helped with the waves but there is still about a quarter inch of waves left. I'll just stretch while stitching since I'll be working with a heavy knit. The CF seam needed straightening too, a tad, like quarter inch. CB seam needed squaring off too. The error 'seams' to be in the truing of the shape of the back waist allowance.<BR/>I true my patterns with a large right angled triangle and my french curves.<BR/><BR/>Debbie, this has been really interesting. I am a bit disappointed because the patterns did seem so promising. I was always concerned with the 'frump' factor but tried to convince myself that it was only in the much larger sizes.<BR/><BR/>Now off I go to cut through that pattern. Thanks again. It has been most revealing and entertaining.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-43923703828430408592007-11-13T14:02:00.000-05:002007-11-13T14:02:00.000-05:00Not worth the money or time. How can you fit a la...Not worth the money or time. How can you fit a large bust without darts! No can do. This is a boring and unimaginative top that is badly cut to boot. Not worth the time to fix the problems. But, thanks to you we all know that now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-82482697584224458942007-11-13T13:34:00.000-05:002007-11-13T13:34:00.000-05:00Thanks for both of these entries, Debbie. I was j...Thanks for both of these entries, Debbie. I was just shaking my head at the real examples that CC uses on her website. I totally agree with Nanflan! Thanks for experimenting and giving us the scoop!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-48141127327547285612007-11-13T12:51:00.000-05:002007-11-13T12:51:00.000-05:00The top is even worse than the pants. If I were a ...The top is even worse than the pants. If I were a plus size woman with little sewing experience, I would weep at the results of this outfit and wonder what was wrong with me! If one is marketing to this segment, one should take extra care to get it right--many new sewers trust the pattern and blame themselves when things don't work out. And that's a real disservice.NancyDaQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00609215745927535353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-46358905562739633232007-11-13T12:43:00.000-05:002007-11-13T12:43:00.000-05:00Thanks for "taking one for the team."Thanks for "taking one for the team."vespabellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11075188608057610489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-86072996368588528502007-11-13T12:41:00.000-05:002007-11-13T12:41:00.000-05:00'Preflighting,' what a great term. I appreciate th...'Preflighting,' what a great term. I appreciate these posts; it's nice to know not only what works or doesn't work on someone, but why and how it might turn out for me. <BR/><BR/>I, too, haven't seen what the big whoop is for the CC patterns - haven't yet seen a garment that makes me think "wow, that's great." Maybe it's a better option than most of the Big 4 for plus sizes, but there are so many other choices out there nowadays (not least of which is altering a pattern to fit).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-63549412633178001092007-11-13T12:16:00.000-05:002007-11-13T12:16:00.000-05:00Thank you Debbie for the explanation of your thoug...Thank you Debbie for the explanation of your thoughts. It is very helpful and gives me more confidence to make the alterations that I need. ElaineElainehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15496425669355672889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20350253.post-67383831350584038282007-11-13T11:38:00.000-05:002007-11-13T11:38:00.000-05:00Debbie, your posts on fitting are just wonderful a...Debbie, your posts on fitting are just wonderful and so helpful. I have been teaching myself to fit and sew for myself for many years, and am still learning and making sense of it all. A bit like a jigsaw puzzle sometimes! When the fit is good it's "couture". When it's wrong, it's "homemade". At least I have a few couture pieces in my wardrobe now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com